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Mum’s The Word On QB Advantage

Posted by Brian Tinsman on September 1, 2011 – 3:00 pm

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Like a horse race with a photo-finish, tonight’s game will likely be a deciding factor in the Redskins quarterback competition.  Will it be Rex Grossman?  Will it be John Beck?

Will anyone tell us?

Here’s a recap of thoughts on the competition, just from this week:

Head coach Mike Shahanan:

“Everybody’s got different styles, and I think where most people make a comparison is that they’re looking at speed of a quarterback.  Y’know, John’s probably a little bit faster than Rex, and Rex has got probably a little more experience in the National Football League than John does.  But besides that, y’know, we ask quarterbacks to execute an offense, and everybody’s got their strengths, everybody’s got their weaknesses.”

“Like I’ve said before, I’ve got two guys that can play in the National Football League, and I’ve got a lot of confidence in both guys.  Whoever wins the job, I’ve got a lot of confidence in our quarterback situation.”

Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan:

“I think it’s very close. We’ve only had three games and John didn’t get to play in one. They both have done a good job and had good numbers. When we review the tape, it’s pretty neck-and-neck.”

“I knew it was going to be tough. When we lost OTA’s and minicamps, unless one of them came out and played like we weren’t expecting, then it would have been easier. We were confident they both would do well. When you knew you only had three weeks to a month to do it, we knew it was going to go down to the wire.”

“I will say, it’s not an easy decision, they both are right there. They’re making it a tough decision. They both are doing a good job.  I think both of them are strong enough people mentally. I believe they are secure enough and expected this situation. I think both of them are doing a good job handling the pressure.”

Running back Tim Hightower:

“It definitely matters, it definitely matters.  Y’know, the sooner you can get in there and build that camaraderie with one guy, the better.”

“But at the end of the day, I’m not the one making that decision and it’s a tough decision.  They’re both capable of having the job.  I’m sure [the coaches] know that.  They’ve been doing this a lot longer than me, and they know when the time is and when to get it done.  So I’m sure they’ll do that.”

The best answer goes to left tackle Trent Williams:

“Any difference between the two?  Um…they’re voices are different [laughter]. Nah, I mean, I don’t really see too big of a difference, I really don’t. I know they’re both different and they’re both right-on, but I mean, I’m just blocking for them. It really don’t matter to me who’s back there.”

“To be honest with you, I couldn’t tell you the difference. I mean, I don’t know how to coach a quarterback or judge a quarterback, so I mean, as long as they were getting the ball out there, I was happy. They’ve pretty much both got the offense down, and they run it how Kyle wants it to be run.”

“That’s Coach Shanahan’s decision, and he can make it whenever he want to. If he tells me to go out there and block one of them at quaterback, or Kyle Shanahan at quarterback…or maybe I can get back there, y’know? The O-line, we gotta block for whoever’s there.”

Wide receiver Anthony Armstrong (during training camp):

Maybe there really is no discernible difference between the two quarterbacks at this point, including statistically:

John Beck: 2 games, 74.1 percent completion, 248 yards, TD, INT, 99.0 QB rating.

Rex Grossman: 3 games, 64.2 percent completion, 407 yards, 2 TD, INT, 92.3 QB rating.

Both quarterbacks will need a strong push tonight to blow the doors off of this competition.


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3 Responses to “Mum’s The Word On QB Advantage”

  1. By david on Sep 1, 2011 | Reply

    There are several key points about each QB that are not being said out loud by Redskins personnel, but that are very relevant:

    – Grossman knows Kyle’s offense better
    Grossman makes more correct decisions more quickly than Beck in terms of where to throw the ball on any given play. This isn’t necessarily Beck’s fault since he has had one year less in Kyle’s system, but it is what it is. Grossman’s command of the offense was evident last year, in which he threw for over 300 yards twice in the three games he started.

    – Grossman is turnover prone.
    In his one full season as the Bears’ starter, Grossman threw 20 INTs and fumbled 8 times — all in one season! Last year for the Skins Grossman had 8 turnovers in just 4 games (4 fumbles and 4 INTs). The Skins lost both of Rex’s 300-yard games in part because Rex had 3 turnovers in each.

    – Beck has more upside.
    The Shanahan’s have been high on Beck since 2007 and think he has tremendous potential. Personally, I think Beck’s better footwork and fundamentals are visibly apparent when watching the two this preseason. Beck also is said to have the stronger arm.

    – Beck is more accurate.
    If we want to compare raw ability regarding accuracy, it makes the most sense to compare the two in their final collegiate years, when they both had full command of the offense and were at the top of their games. Beck’s completion pct was 69%, and Grossman’s 57%. In the NFL, Beck only has two preseason games with the Redskins, but has a 74% completion pct. In comparison, Grossman’s completion pct is 64% this preseason, and had a 56% completion pct in his 4 games with the Skins last season. In the end there’s not a whole lost of data on Beck, but the limited evidence suggests his completion pct would be about 10 pts higher than Grossman’s.

    Conclusion: I have no idea, but it’s fun to put an opinion out there. I think the Skins should go with Beck. He’ll complete more balls and have fewer turnovers, even though he’ll also miss more open receivers as he reaches a comfort level with Kyle’s offense.

  2. By gearhead on Sep 1, 2011 | Reply

    why does every body talk about the bad rex and not the good he does last time I checked the defince did not have 27 td passes the year went to super bowl know one talks how cutler had 23 ints under same sysem as grossman know one gives him a chance in agood system with good recievers and good line when he was with chicago he had one of the best deep balls around check the stats I think he was at the top of the stats give him a chance

  3. By david on Sep 1, 2011 | Reply

    @ gearhead – “why does every body talk about the bad rex and not the good”

    – my first comment was that rex knows the system better than beck, and i pointed to rex’s two 300-yard games last year. that’s talking about the good.

    – it’s not just Grossman’s INTs, it’s his fumbles. he fumbled 4 times in four games last year for the skins, in addition to his 4 interceptions in the same four games.

    – and you can’t blame his turnovers with the Bears on poor line play. Jason Campbell had some of the worst offensive-lines ever, yet in his final two full seasons with the Skins he had a combined 21 interceptions, about the same number that Grossman had in just one full season with the Bears.

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